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Old 02-11-2009, 10:15 AM
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What is 'follow through' and what do I have to do to get it down to zero? How do I get 'duty cycle' to go up? I tried playing around with spring thickness and spring tension but that only seems to make a tiny bit of difference...
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Old 02-11-2009, 12:17 PM
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there just numbers, if your tattoos look good, then f@#k it
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Old 02-11-2009, 02:51 PM
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Yeah, that's what my collegues also tell me. But I have a couple of liners that have totally different numbers on the EIKON and the one that has perfect readings makes perfect lines. The others don't seem to push the ink in very well. I end up running every line twice.
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Yeah, that's what my collegues also tell me. But I have a couple of liners that have totally different numbers on the EIKON and the one that has perfect readings makes perfect lines. The others don't seem to push the ink in very well. I end up running every line twice.
are you trying to run your other machines at the same speed as the one you like? its not neccesarily the numbers you are after, its the machine set up that makes them function differently. what gauge of springs do you have on the machines? is the stroke set up differently? what happens if you turn your machines up or down and then try and pull a line? change in hand speed? it is essentially "just numbers" but what those numbers mean are how your machine functions (i know this is stating the obvious) but those numbers wont mean a thing unless you understand WHAT is making your machine function that way and those are a handful of different variables.
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well put my man
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Old 02-12-2009, 06:23 AM
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Ok, for example: one of my liners runs a bit slower then the cutback that I use a lot. I would like to use this slower liner for smaller and more detailed pieces if it would just make for better lines. Now, the DC of the cutback is 47% and the FT is 0. The slower one has a DC of 32% and FT is 6. I know they're 'just' numbers but to me it's an indication that something's not right.
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Ok, for example: one of my liners runs a bit slower then the cutback that I use a lot. I would like to use this slower liner for smaller and more detailed pieces if it would just make for better lines. Now, the DC of the cutback is 47% and the FT is 0. The slower one has a DC of 32% and FT is 6. I know they're 'just' numbers but to me it's an indication that something's not right.
it IS an indication that something is definitely different about them. what brand machines are they? its indicating, though...something that you could probably fix to your preference for under 20 bucks, tops.

edit. my guess is you could get a new set of springs and have the problem solved.
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Hey man, in my opinion the numbers definitely matter but yes machines will be different depending on how they are setup, I will pm you! I notice when I setup with the ball system my numbers are all where they are supposed to be....coincidence? Donít think so!
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Old 02-12-2009, 02:07 PM
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Thank guys! I'll definately keep trying different springs. The machines with problems are Mickey Sharpz, Early Irons and a handmade machine by a spanish ex-collegue. I have another Mickey Sharpz, an Early Irons, a TAP and a Joshua Carlton and all of them run beautifully.
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Old 02-12-2009, 04:22 PM
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Most of my machines run a bit different as far as the numbers read... if you like how it runs f@#k it... check out Machine Gun magazine... they have a lot about machines and how to adjust certain things... Every time i mess with my machines I make em worse... The machines I like the best are the ones I do nothing to... I'm not a machine builder nor will I ever fully understand it...
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